„Wir müssen zum dialogischen Kern einer spielerischen Haltung“
Die Game-Designerin Christiane Hütter darüber, wie Games den journalistischen Dialog befördern können und warum Gamification nicht immer funktioniert
Christiane Hütter ist Psychologin und Game-Designerin. Sie analysiert, designt und hackt soziale Systeme als freie Künstlerin und berät Institutionen, wie sie mit ihrem Publikum in Kontakt treten können. Carla Moritz fragt: Was können Journalist:innen von ihr lernen?
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